Hillary Might Not Win The Popular Vote, Liberals Can Stop With The Petitions

They have gone one step further than just protesting. The liberals cannot stand the fact that they lost so they have set up a petition that Hillary won the popular vote, so we should abolish the electoral college altogether, and the state electors should abandon the electoral votes for Trump, and instead vote Hillary into office. There’s just one problem, liberals Hillary DID NOT win the popular vote. Here’s why.

According to American Thinker

Okay, let’s address this “Hillary might win the popular vote, isn’t that Electoral College situation just awful” thing head on.

No, it’s not horrible.  It’s great, and it protects the importance of your vote.  It’s also uniquely American and demonstrates yet again the once-in-creation brilliance of the Founding Fathers.

First of all, she’s probably not going to win the actual number of votes cast.  She may win the number of votes counted, but not the votes cast. States don’t count their absentee ballots unless the number of outstanding absentee ballots is larger than the state margin of difference.  If there is a margin of 1,000 votes counted and there are 1,300 absentee ballots outstanding, then the state tabulates those.  If the number of outstanding absentee ballots wouldn’t influence the election results, then the absentee ballots aren’t counted.

Who votes by absentee ballot?  Students overseas, the military, business people on trips, etc.  The historical breakout for absentee ballots is about 67-33% Republican.  In 2000, when Al Gore “won” the popular vote nationally by 500,000 votes and the liberal media screamed bloody murder, there were 2 million absentee ballots in California alone.  A 67-33 breakout of those yields a 1.33- to 0.667-million Republican vote advantage so that Bush would have gotten a 667,000-vote margin from California’s uncounted absentee ballots alone!  So much for Gore’s 500,000 popular votes “victory.”  (That was the headline on the N.Y. Times and it was the lead story on NBC Nightly News, right?  No?  You’re kidding.)

Getting back to the “win the popular vote/lose the Electoral College” scenario: Thank G-d we have that, or else California and N.Y. would determine every election.  Every time.

I’ll draw a boxing analogy for you.  In boxing, the scoring for a completed fight (one where there’s no knockout, but instead goes the full distance) is done either on a Rounds basis or a Points basis (agreed upon in advance).  Let’s say it’s a 10-round fight, scored on the Rounds basis.  The judges decide which boxer wins each round, and the fight is scored 7-3 or 6-4 or 8-2.

The another way a fight can be scored is on the Points basis.  Under this system, a fighter is given 10 points for winning the round, and the loser gets 1-9 points, depending on how close or badly he loses it.

Let’s say Jones has two really big rounds where he knocks Jackson down a few times and really has him in trouble, winning those two rounds by scores of 10-6.  But Jones wins only two other rounds and those by very close 10-9 margins.

Jackson wins the six other rounds, all by 10-9 margins.  No question that Jackson won those six rounds, but they weren’t overly dramatic.  Just solid wins.

So Jackson wins by rounds, 6-4.

Jones wins by points, 94-90.

California and N.Y. are the 10-6 rounds.  Those two states will unduly and disproportionately affect the election – every time.  The other big-population states are all 10-9 rounds.  That means that the vast majority of 48 states and their populations will be subject to the whim and desire of just two states.  If those two states have similar demographics and voting preferences at any particular point in time (which they do now), then those two states call the shots for the entire country.

But the Electoral College brilliantly smooths out the variances in the voting proclivities among states and regions.  Farmers in the middle of the country and importers and exporters on the shore get roughly equal say, as do Madison Ave. Execs and factory workers in Tennessee.

Shortcomings?  Sure.  The E.C. can make an R vote meaningless in a very few heavily D states or vice versa.  But without the Electoral College, the country’s entire population is subject to the disproportionate voting preferences of the few most populous states.

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41 thoughts on “Hillary Might Not Win The Popular Vote, Liberals Can Stop With The Petitions

  • November 12, 2016 at 9:54 pm
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    popular vote arguments also fail to account for blue state ‘eff-you’ 3rd party voting.
    just cali and ny alone had ~800k 3rd party votes.
    many (most) of these would become trump votes if they mattered.

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    • November 13, 2016 at 3:30 am
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      “mb” they should either allow the “third party” to compete fairly (in a fair election)…OR not have it at all. Because, it really is throwing your vote away….unless, some MAJOR transformations happen. It would be interesting to see how Americans would vote….if it wasn’t somewhat predetermined for us. Still, there seems to be alot of the population that doesn’t even have a clue about the system-of-balances that our fore-fathers put in place….LIKE capitalism and not socialists’ policies. Maybe it is a good thing we don’t let all Americans fantasies just run wild…maybe there is a reason SOME things are predetermined…simply to keep our LIBERTIES in tacked. (i’m sure grateful for them this time).

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    • November 18, 2016 at 5:17 pm
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      If they were going to be Trump votes in their entirety, they would have voted for him in the first place. That’s a bad assumption. I bet the GOP would have already started abolishing the electoral college if California and New York were red states but they kept losing anyway. Such bias in this country is really embarrassing. Every other major country in the world elects their leader by popular vote. All the governors, mayors, state legislators, US Congress, city councils, all elected by popular vote. Why should the President be any different, especially since the President is the only major entity in this country with term limits. It’s not like any one President will be in office long enough to become a dictator. This is not what our forefathers intended the electoral college to become. But hey, it is what it is, and we have to live with it until we don’t.

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  • November 13, 2016 at 1:04 am
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    “What are absentee ballots? Do they only count in close elections?

    Many absentee ballots are cast by voters who are unable to vote at their physical polling place due to being an active duty military member, a family member of someone on active duty or a U.S. citizen residing overseas. All ballots submitted according to State laws are counted in every election.

    The media often will report the projected outcome of the election before all of the ballots are counted. In a close election, the media may report that the outcome cannot be announced until after the absentee ballots are counted. However, all ballots, including absentee ballots, are counted in the final totals for every election ? and every vote (absentee or in-person) counts the same.”
    https://www.fvap.gov/vao/vag/appendix/faq

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    • November 13, 2016 at 11:27 am
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      The devil is always in the details. And what states might have the most absentee ballots? New York. California. And who did those residents tend to vote for?

      Just because an argument is valid (seems logical), question the accuracy of the premises. It’s like Jenga. Sometimes when you pull out a block the entire tower falls… not always, but the same goes for claims built on questionable or inaccurate facts.

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      • November 18, 2016 at 5:20 pm
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        New York has very few absentee ballots because you have to have an actual written reason to vote absentee in New York. California, Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania have quite a few. Most absentee ballots come from the military, the elderly or people who travel for their employment.

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    • November 13, 2016 at 12:06 pm
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      My state doesn’t count absentee ballots until 3 weeks after the election. Nobody is going to overturn the election outcome nearly a month after the election. You might as well not bother to vote if you send in an absentee ballot.

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    • November 16, 2016 at 2:04 pm
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      But let’s not let facts get in the way…..all votes are counted because there are down-ballot races that depend on those results just as much as the presidential race. And, those races are usually tighter. Remember, you voted for more than one person on the ballot, right?????

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  • November 13, 2016 at 9:49 am
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    A better analogy is the World Searies . You have 7 games (50 states) one team wins 3 games by 8 total points but the other teams wins 4 games by a slim margin. Who wins the World Series?

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  • November 13, 2016 at 1:54 pm
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    Yes Hillary Clinton did win the popular vote then Donald Trump I did vote for her twice what the difference between her and donlad who cares

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  • November 13, 2016 at 3:44 pm
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    We get that the you guys are known as an uneducated bunch but let’s not make up crap. The majority of absentee ballots votes come from California, New York and Washington. The vast majority of these votes will go to Clinton.

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    • November 15, 2016 at 12:42 am
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      No they don’t in California because they are largely military!

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    • November 15, 2016 at 1:01 pm
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      Incorrect. All CA votes including absentee counted.

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    • November 16, 2016 at 12:31 pm
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      Lilly, you are an ignorant BITCH. Thank God the true Americans have prevailed. Together we will make America great again and shove your liberal socialist agenda back up your ASS where it belongs.. Go F yourself..

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      • November 16, 2016 at 11:41 pm
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        Wow. Really classy. Please listen to your own president elect, who acknowledged that HC won the popular vote. FYI, all absentee votes are counted. It is a misperception that all absentee votes are not counted. http://Www.help.vote.org

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        • November 19, 2016 at 9:20 am
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          No its not because if they have a 1000 absentee ballots and they need more than that to changeveryone thing they are not counted.

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      • November 18, 2016 at 5:22 pm
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        You don’t call anyone ignorant and other tag out of their name, that only proves that you’re ignorant since nobody is disrespecting you in that manner. If you believe you’re right, just leave it at that and move on. All this ignorant bickering is pointless.

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  • November 13, 2016 at 4:26 pm
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    Need to correct one thing… in CA, all absentee votes are counted- with the final tally being submitted 28 days after the election. In fact, all ballots postmarked on November 8 and received by Dec. 6th are included in that count. Final certified count will be released on Dec. 16th.

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  • November 14, 2016 at 7:08 pm
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    I stopped reading this crap after the article (if you want to call it that) stated that nationally absentee ballots break 67-33 in favor of the Republicans, and that’s O.K. I guess, I do wish shady sites like this would site there sources for this info, but I decided to go ahead and accept that as true when I read it. Then the writer goes on to use that figure to calculate how many uncounted absentee ballots would have gone for Bush, and i’m like… pause. The absentee ballots in the State of California are not going to break 67-33 in favor of the Republican. They’re just not, maybe nationally, if i’m to believe the person who wrote this that is, but 67-33 for the Republican in California? No, I was done. and then I was reading the comments and someone pointed out that the leftover absentee ballots actually do get counted so if that’s true it’s a mute point anyways. *Facepalm Goodbye.

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  • November 15, 2016 at 3:40 am
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    The Cook Report, a non-partisan organization, shows Clinton ahead by some 900,000 votes. Does it change things? Probably not but be honest and report what is true. Trump won the Electoral College and Clinton won the popular vote. This has happened 4 times in our history so it isn’t something new.

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    • November 20, 2016 at 6:46 pm
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      This is a fake news site. It’s pure fiction. Hillary won the popular vote by ~ 2 million votes.

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  • November 15, 2016 at 4:25 am
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    Just to be clear then, in the USA not all legitimate votes are counted? Sounds bad to me.

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  • November 15, 2016 at 6:17 am
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    My guess is that Trump won the popular vote by about 70%, with the Witch getting around 20% and the rest to the indys.

    The vote was hacked, but hacked to show a virtual tie so as not to blow the Democratic party into oblivion.

    At least the Clinton machine is dead–hopefully, one can never tell about vampires–to prevent a President Chelsea!

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  • November 15, 2016 at 3:06 pm
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    For every illegal who voted and was caught (approx. 3 million last count), you can bet 10 more got away with it. For every rigged voting machine that was caught, you can bet 10 more were not noticed. For every dead person who voted and was caught, you can bet 10 more were counted. I would be willing to bet if a legal and honest count could ever be given, Trump won the popular vote by many millions and it was nowhere near a “close” race.

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    • December 30, 2016 at 10:23 am
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      when trump is sworn in i hear he’s having all machines purged so they get accurate count so lets remember fraud jill stein who made million off her scam and now must pay back and has disappeared so when trump is in all will pay their bullshit

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    • November 23, 2016 at 12:24 pm
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      Have some more Kool-Aid. You trust CNN?? LOL!

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      • December 30, 2016 at 10:21 am
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        you mean klingon news network

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    • December 30, 2016 at 10:26 am
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      hey stupid idiot morn shannon, did you read what i just wrote, 3 million illegals, 2 million dead people, 1 million other non citezens and thousands of multiple fraud ballots, read if you know how liberal retard

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  • November 19, 2016 at 9:23 am
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    Man what a bunch of damn cry babies put on your big boy panties and face it TRUMP WON,

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  • December 30, 2016 at 10:20 am
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    the witch bitch liar did not win popular vote and she knows it, take out illegals, dead people, other non citizens and multiple ballots and she looses by landslide!

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